Subject: SMML VOL 2642 Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 02:31:39 +1000 SMML is proudly sponsored by SANDLE http//sandlehobbies.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1 Re TRUMPETER CVN 68 NIMITZ 2 Re Graf Spee 3 Re Conning Towers and cruisers 4 Re Trumpeter Nimitz -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD INDEX 1 such a deal ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From Ray Bean Subject Re TRUMPETER CVN 68 NIMITZ Sir You can get additional aircraft in 350th from the Tamiya Aircraft Sets which are still available, to include more Phantoms and Ea6B. I just got my kit this week and it is awesome, not without its flaws like ALL plastic kits. Most are fixable. You are working hard just on memory alone. I have just begun marketing a brand new 100 image Photo CD on four carriers of the class, of Volume I, Series I, available now. Lots of close up pictures of islands and masts and starboard side details and fantails of CVN 68, 69, 73 and 74. Priced at $17. 50 USD with free shipping to USA, more for overseas, $20 in Canada. This includes several early shots of CVN island you mentioned. Contact Ray Bean at stillmo@mb.sympatico.ca for further details. Ray in Canada ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From George Levine Subject Re Graf Spee If I remember correctly, bunker fuel oil is what is left over after all other useful products are removed. At ambient temperatures it can be shoveled. The only use for it is in steam plants. I do not believe that you can get any more of the lighter fractions from it. I am not aware of any ships built with fuel distillation plants. Bunker fuel has a heating system, diesel fuel has purification systems. George Levine Currently in Charleston, South Carolina ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From "Chris and Kayo Amano-Langtree" Subject Re Conning Towers and cruisers Hi Melvin >> Christopher Amano-Langtree, in summation it is clerar that the designers in the IJN and USN, and the RN up to 1921, engaged in the cost benefit equations and made their choices accordingly. That choice was to have a heavy CT. << Which doesn't make it the correct choice. My point is that it proved to be a wrong choice which wasted armour that could have been better employed elsewhere. The Royal Navy after the Nelson class realised this and built no more battleships with armoured conning towers. Furthermore in rebuilding their warships they removed the armoured conning towers. The Hood if she had been rebuilt would have ommitted the armoured conning tower. However, US and Japanese naval architects and designers being more hidebound and traditionalist retained them. This is surprising in the case of the USN which had pioneered the all or nothing armour principle. The realization in the Royal Navy was that even retaining armoured conning towers for cruiser size guns was pointless as tactically the situations where a cruiser would fight a battleship were likely to be few and far between. Christopher Amano-Langtree ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From "Roy.McKay" Subject Re Trumpeter Nimitz BC wrote >> I dont remember catwalks around the radar mast aft of the Island.. As a side note on aircraft I dont see an EA-6B offered yet..This was an Important aircraft that an airwing would not be without.. << You are right about the Mast behind the Island, it DID NOT have an 'X' shaped catwalk around the top until 85/86 at the earliest. Certainly not when built anyway. A good chance was it was fitted when the ship got Phalanx CIWS. (but I'm willing to be corrected on that). I'm surprised no-one else spotted this yet! The Italeri 1/720 has it correct for as-built to mid-'80s (as does the GMM 1/720 set). Both also have different (correct) ones for Ike and Vinson as built. Also, VAQ-130 Zappers were on the first 2 cruises in 1975-76 with EA-6Bs. And VA-82 A-7Es are also missing along with VF-31 F-4Js (first cruise with AC tailcodes and USS Saratoga markings) and VF-74 F-4Js (75-76 cruise, AJ codes) My own question, any former crew members from Nimitz on this board, would you please contact me if you are interested in helping a 1/720 scale ship modeller who is currently suffering a terrible disease called 1/72 wingy thingy collection. I am trying to build CVW-8 in 1/72 scale. Lots of questions. Need help! Cheers, Roy ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From Ned Barnett Subject such a deal I just listed my Anatomy of a Ship - Yamato (and a bunch of other ship books) on Amazon. In all cases, my prices are the lowest available for the book in question - for AOAS - Yamato, it's a full $10 USD below the next lowest price. Please check them out if you'd like a good deal on some great ship books. Also, if you have any ship books you're looking for, I'm in the process of putting somewhere between 50 and 100 on the market - let me know what you're looking for and I'll see if I can strike a deal. Thanks Ned Barnett ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the SMML site for the List Rules, Backissues, Member's models & reference pictures at http//smmlonline.com Check out the APMA site for an index of ship articles in the Reference section at http//apma.org.au/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume