Subject: SMML VOL 2683 Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 03:25:59 +1100 SMML is proudly sponsored by SANDLE http//sandlehobbies.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1 Instructions for CC Lee Enterprise 2 Re WW 2 National emblems 3 USS Juniata 4 Re wheel well color 5 WW2 Camouflage Colour codes -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD INDEX 1 Including some AOTS Titles - still more below-Amazon books 2 Books selling at below Amazon's lowest price - First Come, First Served 3 Want to Buy Pitroad 1/700 Takao Brass ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From Mark Leonard Subject Instructions for CC Lee Enterprise Does anybody have a copy of the instructions for the 1/400 USS Enterprise (CVAN 65) by CC Lee? I got this kit in a club raffle, but no instructions! I'd be happy to pay copying and postage for a set. Thanks! Mark Leonard ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From Graham Preston Subject Re WW 2 National emblems Franklyn, Re WW @ National emblems, the two flags flown by warships of the Imperial Japanese Navy are the National Flag of Japan - the White flag with the solid Red Disc in the centre, and the Ensign of the IJN. The national flag was flown as the "Jack" on the Jack-staff of commissioned ships of the IJN, when they were in harbour, tied up at jetties, moored to a buoy, or at anchor, with the Ensign - the Rising Sun flag with an off-centre red disc and "rays" emanating out from it, flown from the Ensign-staff at the extreme stern. The Jack-staff was the 'flag-pole" located right forward at the extreme bow. Once the ship got underway, she flew the Naval Ensign only, from the "at-sea" position, usually a gaff, off the mainmast. Hope this helps (and makes sense to you), Cheers, Chris Preston, Victoria B.C., Canada ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From "Harry L. Latham, Jr." Subject USS Juniata Dear SMML I am interested in building a model of the USS Juniata, SP 602, a.k.a., the Josephine. My father served in the USNR during WWI on this Section Patrol (Anti-submarine) boat. I have had no success to date in locating any of her construction details. Perhaps one of your members may be able to help me. I would be most grateful; I am a veteran of the USNR and served during WWII. I don't know how many more years my hand and eye coordination will hold out, so I am getting a bit anxious. I have included a short description and history of the boat with this note. Thank you for any help you all my offer! Sincerely, Harry L. A SHORT HISTORY OF THE SECTION PATROL BOAT - USS JUNIATA II SP 602 Edited by H. L. Latham, Jr 23 October 2004 USS Juniata II, SP 602 (0-YPX) (Serial # 34292), Section Patrol, Type B, a.k.a., Josephine, sister to the Irene II, began her service as a motor yacht built in 1911 by Robert Jacobs Yard, City Island, NY for Edward Shearson, later sold to G(eorge) W. Elkins. She was designed by the naval architect, William Gardner. The US Navy acquired her on 1 June 1917 from her owner, G(eorge) W. Elkins of Philadelphia. She was commissioned at Philadelphia that same day with Lt.(jg) W.G. Morse, USNRF in command. The Juniata was assigned to the Fourth Naval District and based at Lewes, Delaware. She performed patrol duties in the Delaware Bay until decommissioning 13 July 1918 and was returned to her owner 25 July 1918. She had a steel hull and displaced 142 tons. She had an overall length of 139’6", 128’ at the water line, a beam of 17’, and a draft of 6’. She was powered by two Standard 300 HP engines and had a top speed of 17 knots. During her service she was armed with; one 3 pounder (2"dia) and one 1-pounder (1.5"dia) deck guns, and two machine guns (30 Cal). The other equipment included a 14 " searchlight, flags and a whistle. As a submarine patrol boat, her duties were to patrol the Delaware Bay to keep German U-boats at bay. Since she was acquired by the Navy from a private concern, the Navy does not have blueprints of her. Those would likely be found with the current owners of Robert Jacobs Yard, a private company. According to the website http//www.geocities.com/proteus_theatre/press_release.html The Consolidated Yachts, Inc, the successor to the Robert Jacobs Yard, location is an extremely significant and historical site. The Robert Jacobs Yard was the first shipbuilding site on the City Island. At this location yachts were built for Sir Thomas Lipton, and serviced for the Vanderbilts and Astors, and the cream of society. During WWII minesweepers came from the sheds. In 1948 the Rodstrom family bought it. The current owner, Wes Rodstrom, is the latest in a long line of a proud nautical family tradition, maintaining an active working boatyard and marina with the largest travel lift on City Island. It is very interesting that this yard built yachts for the Vanderbilts and Astors and other rich families. In the spring and summer of 1917, the U.S. Navy acquired hundreds, if not thousands of privately owned boats and ships, and pressed them into service. The German U-boat scourge was claiming ships within sight of the U.S. East Coast and the demand for boats of this type was urgent when America entered the war. Also, this piece states that the current owner of that original Robert Jacobs shipbuilding yard is Wes Rodstrom. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From Daniel Kurtz Subject Re wheel well color >> Im in the process of painting a Lockeed Ventura and and Grumman Avenger. It has dawned on me that, what was the color in the wheel well of USN/Marine Aircraft? Was it the same as the Army Air Corps (Humbrol 81)? Or could I just apply odinary cockpitt green (Humbrol 78)? << Well, the wheel wells of TBF/Ms (as well as the landing gear itself) was painted the same color as the underside of the aircraft. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From "Chris and Kayo Amano-Langtree" Subject WW2 Camouflage Colour codes Hi Mitsuaki Yes the letters do have a meaning. AP is the most difficult as I haven't seen any reference to the abbreviation but it seems to have stood for Admiralty Pattern (or Paint) with the number of the paint (507). A was the darkest and C the lightest with B being a 50/50 mix of both. MS is another difficult one and Ministry of Supply is maybe the most likely meaning. These were grey-green paints and the shades were possibly of land origin. Western Approaches colours were originally classified WA (Blue, Green and White). Mountbatten Pink never to my knowledge received a classification - it was always Mountbatten Pink. In 1942 a move was made to standardise paint definitions based on the shade and the reflective value of the paint. So all blue-grey paints were classified in the B series and grey-green (MS series) paints as G. The less light a paint reflected the lower its number. So G10 (old AP507A) was a dark grey-green paint and B55 was WA Blue. Incidently AP507C survived as G45. Ships carried paint supplies on board and copies of the standards (when the system was finally standardised) and dockyards also had the standards supplied to them and knew how to mix the paints. Names were used by the writers of the documents to identify paints. They were not part of the official definition of a paint apart from the WA series and Mountbatten Pink. All the best Christopher Amano-Langtree ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From Ned Barnett Subject Including some AOTS Titles - still more below-Amazon books Here are some more books that I'd like to offer a deal to SMML members -as with the others I just sent you, these are all books I've got listed on Amazon.com, at the lowest price (all the books I list on Amazon are at the lowest price being offered); however, I'm going to sell them to SMML members at about 10% below what they're listed for on Amazon. Unless otherwise noted, shipping is $2.50 per book US (other countries, contact me for postage costs). Payment in USD to me on PayPal at ned@barnettmarcom.com. As always, first-come, first-served Battleship Arizona An Illustrated History/Stillwell Price $28 (plus $7.50 shipping - heavy) The Battleship Dreadnought/Roberts Price $19 (plus $5 shipping - moderately heavy) Battleships of World War Two An International Encyclopedia/Whitley Price $46 (plus $7.50 shipping - heavy) Submarine Alliance (Anatomy of the Ship)/Lambert Price $19 (plus $2.50 shipping) The Battleship Fuso Fuso (Anatomy of the Ship)/Skulski Price $75 (plus $2.50 shipping) Battleship "Yamato" (Conway's Anatomy of the Ship)/ Skukski Price $125 (plus $2.50 shipping) The Aircraft Carrier Intrepid/Roberts Price $21 (plus $2.50 shipping) Submarines of World War Two/Bagnasco Price $8 (plus $2.50 shipping) Submarine Warfare An Illustrated History/Preston Price $5 (plus $2.50 shipping) Ned Barnett ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From Ned Barnett Subject Books selling at below Amazon's lowest price - First Come, First Served I'd like to offer a deal to SMML members - these are all books I've got listed on Amazon.com, at the lowest price (all the books I list on Amazon are at the lowest price being offered); however, I'm going to sell them to SMML members at about 10% below what they're listed for on Amazon. Unless otherwise noted, shipping is $2.50 per book US (other countries, contact me for postage costs). Payment in USD to me on PayPal at ned@barnettmarcom.com. As always, first-come, first-served Ship Books Naval Institute Guide to World Naval Weapons Systems Price $14.5 (plus $5 shipping - moderately heavy book) The Naval Institute Guide to Combat Fleets of the World , 1998-1999 Their Ships, Aircraft, and Systems (Serial) Price $72 (plus $7.50 shipping - heavy book) The Naval Institute Guide to the Ships and Aircraft of the U.S. Fleet, 17th Edition Price $34 (plus $7.50 shipping - heavy book) Pearl Harbor Recalled New Images of the Day of Infamy Price $7.00 (plus $2.50 shipping) Postwar Naval Revolution - Norma Friedman - Naval Institute Press - $19 plus $2.50 shipping United States Naval Vessels - The Official US Navy Reference Manual Prepared by the Division of Naval Intelligence, 1 September 1945 (forward by Adm. Morison) - $45 plus $10 shipping (it's heavy) Janes War At Sea 1897-1997 100 Years of Jane's Fighting Ships - $14 plus $2.50 shipping The Essex Aircraft Carriers - Andrew Faltum, Naval Institute Press - $17.50 plus $2.50 shipping Canada's Flowers - Thomas Lynch, Nimbus, $12 plus $2.50 shipping Special Sale Warship Profile 26 - Free French Submarine Rubis - $10 plus $2.50 shipping Warship Profile 20 - HMS Hesperus/ex-Brazilian H Class Destroyer - $10 plus $2.50 shipping Warship Profile 5 - HMS Campbeltown/USS Buchanan - $20 plus $2.50 shipping All three profiles, $35 plus $5 shipping Janes Fighting Ships of World War I - $14 plus $5 shipping (moderately heavy) Jane's American Fighting Ships of the 20th Century - $13.50 plus $5 shipping (moderately heavy) Both of these Janes books sold as a set - $25 plus $9 shipping Aviation Books The Mighty Eighth Warpaint & Heraldry Price $32 (plus $2.50 shipping) The Mighty Eighth A History of the Units, Men and Machines of the US 8th Air Force Price $15 (plus $2.50 shipping) The Mighty Eighth in Color Price $7 (plus $2.50 shipping) To Fly and Fight Memoirs Of A Triple Ace (Bud Anderson) (Warcraft) Price $7 (plus $2.50 shipping) German Flak in World War II 1939-1945 (Schiffer Military/Aviation History) Price $11 (plus $2.50 shipping) Innovations in Aircraft Construction Thirty-Seven Influential Designs Price $17 (plus $2.50 shipping) Lufthansa An Airline and Its Aircraft Price $26 (plus $2.50 shipping) Strike from the Sky The History of Battlefield Air Attack, 1911-1945 (Smithsonian History of Aviation Series) Price $7 (plus $2.50 shipping) Japanese Army Air Force Fighter Units and Their Aces, 1931-1945 Price $27 (plus $2.50 shipping) Aircraft for the Few The RAF's Fighters and Bombers of 1940 Price $12.50 (plus $2.50 shipping) The Luftwaffe A Photographic Record, 1919-1945 Price $12 (plus $2.50 shipping) Pictorial History of the Luftwaffe Price $9 (plus $2.50 shipping) German Warplanes of Word War II Price $6 (plus $2.50 shipping) The Luftwaffe Album Fights and Bombers of the German Air Force 1933-1945 Price $24 (plus $2.50 shipping) Luftwaffe A Pictorial History (Aviation Crowood Series) Price $36 (plus $2.50 shipping) Der Adler The official Nazi Luftwaffe magazine Price $6 (plus $2.50 shipping) Armor Books Tank Vs Tank Price $7 (plus $2.50 shipping) Steel Rain Waffen-SS Panzer Battles in the West 1944-1945 Price $16.50 (plus $2.50 shipping) U.S. Military Tracked Vehicles (Motorbooks International Crestline Series) Price $80 (plus $7.50 shipping - heavy book) Panzerkrieg The Rise and Fall of Hitler's Tank Divisions Price $12.50 (plus $2.50 shipping) Ned Barnett ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From "Robert Zeit" Subject Want to Buy Pitroad 1/700 Takao Brass Hi- If anyone has a Pitroad photoetch set for the 1/700 Takao, I would be interested in purchasing it. The brass is supposedly still in production, but has not been available from the usual sources (Pacific Front, HLJ) for some time. Thanks, Bob ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the SMML site for the List Rules, Reviews, Articles, Backissues, Member's models & reference pictures at http//smmlonline.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume