Subject: SMML VOL 2718 Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 03:55:35 +1100 The Ship Modelling Mailing List (SMML) is proudly sponsored by SANDLE http//sandlehobbies.com For infomation on how to Post to SMML and Unsubscribe from SMML http//smmlonline.com/aboutsmml/rules.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1 WWI In Colour 2 Making Pennants and flags 3 Post Modern rigging... 4 Re Narvik destroyers -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD INDEX 1 Nautical Book Garage Sale ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From George Colleen Hargreaves Subject WWI In Colour Hi, Thanks to those who responded. The consensus was that the DVD's are worth getting. So I shall. Steve Wiper commented on the difficulties of colourizing, (nice work by-the-by) and I can only agree as I to have tried it via Photoshop. So I wonder how the Sony folk accomplished the task for film! Cheers, George ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From KELVIN MOK Subject Making Pennants and flags >> I found a sneaky way to make passable pennants relatively easily. The first site has a colored adornment at the top of the page. Aha! Carefully cut this adornment from a print-out, carefully fold it in half at the center star, and glue the two folds together enclosing a piece of line which will become the halyard. After the glue dries, carefully create a swallow tail and you will have a commissioning pennant complete with halyard. << I think most will find that by gluing two halves of a printout to make a flag, the doubled paper thickness and traces of paper fibers somehow detracts the result from looking like a scale flag. I made a real nice looking hand held red flag for a T-34 tank commander by folding scotch tape, the less sticky translucent type, over the stick and colored that red with with artists tube acrylics. Drybrush lightly with white acrylic. Then I trimmed the flag into a rectangle and crumpled it somewhat to simulate cloth. I am amazed how realistic the flag looked. It had the right thickness, sheen and "cloth" folds. Its a quick and dirty method you can check out immediately to see if you like it. I haven't tried reproducing multicolored heraldic flags but perhaps one could support the scotch tape on a clear stiff plastic sheet and run that through the printer. Seal the printout with acrylic extender and then fold it over the halyard or flagpole. Next trim to the flag's edges. For simpler flags one can always paint them by hand. A white cross on a blue field for example should be easy enough. A spalsh of blue on scotch tape. Fold that over the flagpole. Paint the cross carefully then trim the pennant's edges to fit. If anyone has success with my suggestion do post your results please. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From mcl181@juno.com Subject Post Modern rigging... Franklyn mentioned colors and types of rigging but, didn't mention where it was anchored/based on the ships superstructure. Various countries and even individual ships would probably differ. However, is there a place where halyards/running rigging are normally tied AT THE BOTTOM (e.g. some sort of hook welded to the top or middle of railing or??)? The same question applies to "standing rigging," where was it usually attached, to the superstructure/deck, to be out of the way? To get very specific take the Prinz Eugen, even Steve Wiper's excellent book doesn't show much of the above particulars(there are a few exceptions). Pictures on the various web-sites don't seem to reveal anything either... Thus, one must rely on Franklyn & others on this list for their vast knowledge, yes? Kind thanks, Mike /Loveland, CO ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From WRPRESSINC@aol.com Subject Re Narvik destroyers I believe that the Havelock was completed with the simple, rangefinder only system, No director. Do not know of any photos of the ship as completed. Out of small interest, at least one of the I class, (Icarus or Impulsive or Intrepid) wore a dazzle pattern during the Norwegian campaign. This comes from clear photos.The leader Codrington was also in dazzle at the time. Unfortunately those destroyers that had dazzle at this time did not wear hull numbers. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From Paul OReilly Subject Nautical Book Garage Sale Greetings All The Canadian Forces Base Esquimalt Naval and Military Museum, located in the Canadian naval base in Esquimalt, British Columbia, Canada, is divesting itself of a number of books which may be of interest to such nautical enthusiasts as frequent this group. These books are duplicates of ones already held by the museum and are not required by other museums so they are to be sold off. If you are interested in any or all books please contact Clare Sugrue at Sugrue.CE@forces.gc.ca Note that her e-mail address is case sensitive. The price for each book will be a donation to the CFB Esquimalt Naval and Military Museum with shipping being borne by the donor. Contact Clare for shipping info. Any books not purchased by 31 January 2005 will be sold off at a local garage sale event which will be open to the public. We may add more books should they be deemed surplus to requirements. Here is the list of books as of 05 January 2005 The Seven Sailors by Commander Kenneth Edwards R.N. The Navy List 1995 They Stand on Guard A Defence Direction for Canada by Bob Hicks, MP The Journal of Private Fraser, 1914-1918 Canadian Expeditionary Force, edited by Reginald H. Roy Admiralty Navigation Manual, Vol. I – Her Majesty’s Stationery Office, 1938 ( x 2 copies) Admiralty Manual of Navigation, Vol. I – Her Majesty’s Stationery Office, 1964 Admiralty Manual of Navigation, Vol. III – Her Majesty’s Stationery Office, 1955 Admiralty Manual of Seamanship, Vol. III – Her Majesty’s Stationery Office, 1964 The Navy Eternal by “Bartimeus”, 1915 A Tall Ship On Other Naval Occasions by “Bartimeus”, 1915 Ships Monthly magazines, January 1997 to December 1997 (with binder) The Thunder and the Sunshine Memoirs of a Sailor, Vol. II by Jeffry V. Brock The Dark Broad Seas Memoirs of a Sailor, Vol. I by Jeffry V. Brock Naval Staff History, Second World War, BR 1736 (6) – Selected Operations (Mediterranean), 1940 – (Battle Summaries Nos. 2, 8, 9 & 10), 1957 Naval Staff History, Second World War, BR 1736 (26) – Raid on Dieppe (Naval Operations), 19th August 1942 – (Battle Summary No. 33), Revised 1959 Naval Staff History, Second World War, BR 1736 (35) – The Battle of Cape Matapan, 28th March, 1941 – (Battle Summary No. 44), 1950 The Old Lieutenant and His Son by Norman Macleod, 1863 Divisional Officer’s Handbook, Royal Canadian Navy, BRCN 3059 (x 2 copies) L’Esprit de la Guerre Navale I – La Stratégie by René Daveluy, 1909 Happy reading! Paul O'Reilly volunteer at the CFB Esquimalt Naval and Military Museum ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the SMML site for the List Rules, Reviews, Articles, Backissues, Member's models & Reference Pictures at http//smmlonline.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume