Subject: SMML VOL 2720 Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 01:16:40 +1100 The Ship Modelling Mailing List (SMML) is proudly sponsored by SANDLE http//sandlehobbies.com For infomation on how to Post to SMML and Unsubscribe from SMML http//smmlonline.com/aboutsmml/rules.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1 Display Cases 2 Display case glass 3 Help with old British Cruisers 4 Re display case glass 5 display cases 6 Re Marine Fahrprahm Kreigsmarine Landing Craft of WWII (MFP) F Lighters -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD INDEX 1 Books on Ebay ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From "David Lockhart" Subject Display Cases I always leave approximately 2” space between the bow, stern, sides, and top. This should give you an excellent view. You down want too much space because then the case is too big and it makes it harder to look at details. I always use Plexiglas not glass. David M. Lockhart ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From "Kurt Van Dahm" Subject Display case glass A rule of thumb I was told years ago and have followed since is to allow a minimum of 2” to the front, sides, rear and top of an average size model sailing ship in a case. For a larger model we increased the fore and aft measurements to 3 or 4 inches depending on how big it got. Hope this helps. Kurt ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From Bob Reddy Subject Help with old British Cruisers Hi all, Hope someone can help me with my research on British Cruisers. My problem is what kind of cruisers are the ships I have listed. Newer ships are easy to label - Heavy Cruiser, Light Cruiser, etc. The problem, for me is the older ones. Are they belted cruisers, protected cruisers, armoured cruisers or scout cruisers? The labels seem to change as new ships come along which confuses me. I have listed the ships that I have conflicting info on. Hope you can help me. Class Displ Completed Ships in Class Blake cl. 9150t 1892 (Blake, Blenheim) Suprise cl. 1650t 1886 (Suprise, Alacrity) Scout cl. 1580t 1885 (Scout, Fearless) Archer cl. 1770t 1888-1891 (Archer, Brisk, Cossack, Mohawk, Porpoise, Racoon, Serpent, Tartar) Barham cl. 1830t 1890 (Barham, Bellona) Topaze cl. 3000t 1904-1905 (Topaze, Amythyst, Diamond, Saphire) The only ships listed in Jane's Fighting Ships 1914 are the Topaze cl. which are listed as Light Cruisers 1898-95 (apparently the years authorized) Is there a comprehensive list of RN cruisers available? Thanks, Bob Reddy ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From beyondsun@mindspring.com Subject Re display case glass Hi abhi, I understand about wanting an "uninterrupted view" of your subject, but I would suggest that, from any angles above 45 degrees, such an unobstructed view should be down through the top. Because, if you look through the sides at higher and higher angles, you're more and more likely to get reflections - plus, the image of the subject(s) will be distorted due to diffraction through the glass. So maybe you also want to think about making your case wider (while still a decent height), so you can have an uninterrupted view from the TOP as well... HTH, Matty ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From "Reynaga, Tim@EDD" Subject display cases >> I am trying to make a clear acrylic casing for my naval diorama. How should I decide on the height of the casing? It should offer an uniterrupted view of the model. Any help will be most welcome. << Abhi, Deciding on the dimensions of a case for a ship model is surprisingly difficult to do. Too short and it looks too cramped, too tall and the case itself draws too much attention... I generally start with a mock-up of the case built from thin folded paper strips. Taped together to simulate the case edges, the open sided box gives me a good 3-dimensional preview of the real thing. It's simple to adjust and can quickly tell me if the corners obscure the view or if there is some other problem. Once I'm satisfied with the look I take measurements from the mock-up and can cut the acrylic sheets with confidence. regards, Tim ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From David Gregory Subject Re Marine Fahrprahm Kreigsmarine Landing Craft of WWII (MFP) F Lighters The another great book to get is "Das Deutsche Landungswesen 1900-1945" by Randolf Kugler. It also is hard to get- I found it by interlibrary loan. It has a huge number of pictures I have not seen elsewhere plus good operational history by theater. It also covers the I-lighters, Siebelfahre and Pioneerlandungsboote. Whitley's book is useless on this subject. I have it and it is 90% about S-boats. There are four pictures of AFPs, none of which are very original and virtually no text about them. Also try "Kampf um die Aegis" by Peter Schenk. Here is a site showing the Italian "Motozattere", which were basically the same http//www.divenfun.com/Francese/diving/immersioni/sch_big.htm There is a great history on these Italian craft, "I MULI DEL MARE" by T. Marcon. Not many picture but it is great if you can read it. Dave Gregory The PT Dockyard http//ptdockyard.tripod.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From ZMzimmerman@cs.com Subject Books on Ebay First a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all subscribers and a wish that any of you on Indian Ocean weathered the tsunami successfully. I have just listed two Profile Morskie books on Ebay, HMS Calcutta item #5948545380 and HMS Renown item # 5948548931.Seller, ID foxtot86lima. I will be listing more books and kits as the day goes on. Thanks, Michael Zimmerman ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the SMML site for the List Rules, Reviews, Articles, Backissues, Member's models & Reference Pictures at http//smmlonline.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume