Subject: SMML VOL 2733 Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 02:35:28 +1100 The Ship Modelling Mailing List (SMML) is proudly sponsored by SANDLE http//sandlehobbies.com For infomation on how to Post to SMML and Unsubscribe from SMML http//smmlonline.com/aboutsmml/rules.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1 LCT (4) plans? 2 Re Henri IV Color scheme 3 ReHenri VI color scheme 4 Re ANZAC Frigate 5 1/144 USS Seawolf 6 Re Liberty Ships 7 AKA Kits 8AKA vs LIberty ships 9 Re Anyone would like to build 1/200 WWII ships? 10 Re Heller 1400 Arromanches (Ex-HMS Colossus) 11 Curtiss SO3C Seamew/USS Cleveland ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From chris Subject LCT (4) plans? Hi All, I was wondering if anyone knew where (if?) I could get some British LCT (4) plans? I was thinking of modelling one in 1/72 scale. Cheers, Chris Evenden Australia ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From "Robert Mosher" Subject Re Henri IV Color scheme The Musee de la Marine in France has a website http//www.musee-marine.fr/index.php?lg=fr&nav=320&flash=0 through which you can order photos. The branch in Paris also had a book store that included a lot of reference material that may include what you are looking for. Hope this helps. Robert A. Mosher ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From Gary Kingzett Subject ReHenri VI color scheme Tim, if you don't get some better specific information, I suggest you try "The Complete Encyclopedia of Battleships", by Tony Gibbons, published in 1983 by Salamander publishing in the UK and by Crescent Books in the US. The drawing of Henri VI in it is in black and white, but there are many pictures of French battleships built just before and just after; their color schemes are consistent, so you have a good chance of being right. Gary Kingzett ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From "George Peat" Subject Re ANZAC Frigate APS Models {Allan Pew] can be contacted on Address PO Box 5025, Gwandalan, NSW, 2259 Australia or by Phone / Fax on 0249-725-825 George Peat ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From HARRY GILDAY Subject 1/144 USS Seawolf i recently recieved trumpeters 1/144 kit of the ssn 21 uss seawolf submarine. it is an awsome kit & is 29 inches long, having worked on the full size steel version , i cant wait to get started on my trumpeter kit does anybody have any ideas on how to radio control a sub this size.? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From chris@libertyship.org Subject Re Liberty Ships In response to Al’s message >> ("The Ships and Aircraft of the U.S. Fleet - Victory Edition") lists AK 70-79, 90-97, 99-140. << This list misses six AKs- AK 221-226. The first four ships in this group were originally commissioned as AP 162-165 in November of 1943, and were later reclassified as AKs in August of 1944. Liberty ships were classified as the following types AG AGM AGTR AK AKN AKS AP AR ARG ARV AVS AW IX T-AGM T-AKV YAGR/AGR YAG And now to David’s >> In addition there were some other Liberty ship conversions 1. Converted to cary aircraft or heavy tanks. The cargo hatches were enlarged and twin king posts with heaver boom installed. 2. Tankers The cargo hatches were sealed off and roung oil ports put in them. There were other internal changes, but this is about all from the modelers point of view. 3. Colliers. The engines were moved aft, and the hatchways changed to somingthing similar to a Great Lakes ore carrier. "H" type masts were built over the hatches to handle the cargo. There was a center island type superstructure. 4. Hospital Ships. The whole superstructure was rebuilt & a wider funnel to cary the 12' wide red cross. << One historical technicality worth mentioning is that the first three (technically four, as the tank and aircraft transports were given separate type designations) types listed were not conversions in the sense of other variants. These types were ground up redesigns based on the hull and machinery of the standard cargo Liberty ship. They were ordered and built as tankers, colliers, etc. All of the other conversions, such as the hospital ships, started with a ship that had begun life as a standard cargo Liberty ship. Regards, Chris Friedenbach Crewmember, SS Jeremiah O'Brien ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From "William B. Smallshaw" Subject AKA Kits Following the thread of converting the Liberty to AKAs...there are some nice kits on the market of AKAs in 1/700 scale. Two of which are from Loose Cannon, the S4 type of AKA and the C1-M-AV1 type of AKA. HP Models recently released a C2 type AKA. All of these are fine kits and build up into nice replicas of the attack transports. If you do not mind the smaller scale, there is no need for conversion to build some of the AKA types. Bill ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From Kdg345@aol.com Subject AKA vs LIberty ships I just finished a 196 scratch built model of AKA93 (the Yancey). I purchased the hull (fiberglass) from Scale Shipyard. The plans came from Floating Drydock and the microfilm of the AKA class of ships from the National Archives. The microfilm was taken to the library and I copied sections of 8 1/2 x 11 inch prints, taped these together and printed the assembly to scale at Kinko's. The Floating Drydock prints were 148 scale, limited in detail and faded with time. I purchased small detail parts from Bluejackets ship models. There enough differences between liberty ships appearances and AKAs that I did not want to try that conversion. I understand that Scale Shipyards now sells a complete kit for AKAs. Some of the problems with the prints that I used is that I had no frontal or rear views for detail - at least they weren't easy to find. I used photos that I obtained from shipmates and my own that I had taken in the 50s. I don't know that I saved money so much as having the pleasure of building it myself. Also, I noted minor differences between the ship from its commissioning to later years such as the Korean War and its final configuration. Ken Groom ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9) From "William H. Shuey" Subject Re Anyone would like to build 1/200 WWII ships? FWIW There have been mentions of the 1/200 Yamato kit by Nichimo. Remember that Nichimo also has done several World War II and post war Japanese destroyer class ships in 1/200 and they would definitely be less daunting projects than that Yamato monster, especially as starter kits. The W.W. II Kagero is very nice. Bill Shuey ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10) From Peter Mispelkamp Subject Re Heller 1400 Arromanches (Ex-HMS Colossus) Hi If this the early kits (released before this year) no. If the box art looks like the latest release of the KGV, Hood or Illustrious and mentons HMS Collossus - then yes. I have 5 of the early releases with three different versions of boxart , and hope that Heller will make these new part available as a separate conversion kit. Regards Peter K. H. Mispelkamp ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11) From Lars Scharff Subject Curtiss SO3C Seamew/USS Cleveland Hi, which aircraft was on board of CL-55 USS Cleveland, when she was in Measure 12 with splotches (1942)? Curtiss SO3C Seamew? Which camouflage scheme were used on Seamews in 1942 and which colours were used? Best regards Lars Scharff ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the SMML site for the List Rules, Reviews, Articles, Backissues, Member's models & Reference Pictures at http//smmlonline.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume