Subject: SMML VOL 2776 Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 01:19:50 +1100 The Ship Modelling Mailing List (SMML) is proudly sponsored by SANDLE http//sandlehobbies.com For infomation on how to Post to SMML and Unsubscribe from SMML http//smmlonline.com/aboutsmml/rules.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1 Model shops in Tuscon AZ 2 11250 Ship Model Meeting in NY City 3 Re Taffrail logs 4 WICHER, BURZA 5 Re Trailing Cable ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From "Chris Herron" Subject Model shops in Tuscon AZ Hi there, I'll shortly be visting Tuscon in Arizona and was wondering if any SMMLies know of any model shops in the area that ideally deal in both ships and model railroad stuff ? Thanks in advance, Chris ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From URUDOFSKY@aol.com Subject 11250 Ship Model Meeting in NY City The second annual ship model meeting for 11250/1200 scale has opened its web site for this meeting. The meeting will be held on May 20-21 on the State University of New York Campus in the Maritime Industry Museum. Housing can be procured in the cadet dormitory. All that information, dates, program etc. is at http//users.nac.net/nyc1250/. Ulrich Rudofsky ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From Fkbrown90@aol.com Subject Re Taffrail logs To Harold Lincoln Thanks for the correction about modern usage of taffrail logs. You are quite correct, unless what you saw wasn't actually a log (OK, rotator) line but really the skipper's fishing line. A prudent captain would try to get as many information inputs as he could, such redundancy is good insurance. I bet they keep any and all their sensors in good working order. I have been told that on larger US Coast Guard cutters the navigators now do less traditional navigation and rely more on GPS. True, SMML? Franklyn ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From "David N. Lombard" Subject WICHER, BURZA Those interested in either ORP WICHER (me), ORP BURCHA (me), or Polish ships in general (also me), should be quite happy (ecstatic) with Kontrtorpedowce WICHER BURZA cz. 1 Jerzy Lubkowski Encyklopedia Okretow Wojennych 28 AJ Press, 2004 It's the usual Polish text with English summary and captions, but, most importantly, three large two-side plans showing line, some curves of form, arrangements, machinery arrangements, all manor of detail -- you don't even have to trace systems in the machinery spaces! David N. Lombard Rossmoor, Orange County, CA http//www.fourmilab.ch/cgi-bin/uncgi/Earth?imgsize=320&opt=-z&lat=33.8&ns=North&lon=118.08&ew=West&alt=7&img=learth.evif ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From Subject Re Trailing Cable Interesting that Harold Lincoln records that the Admiralty Manual of Seamanship 1963 describes various types of trailing log, including the 'Dutchman's Log'. I have a copy of the Manual, dated 1908 ( with revisions to 1911), Vol. 1, which lists the four logs then used in the RN as the Hand Log, Walker's Neptune Patent Log, Walker's Cherub Patent Log, and Walker's Neptune and Trident Electric Log. The Hand Log, described as useful only for low speeds at which it will indicate more accurately than a patent log, utilised a 'logship' of a piece of wood in the shape of the sector of a circle, towed behind the vessel. The instructions which follow the description could have been applicable for Patrick O'Brian to write on practices in the Napoleonic Wars. There is no mention of a 'Dutchman's Log'. The subsequent text describes the other devices, which were designed to be accurate at speeds of 18 kt and up. Clearly the Trident Electric is just an electrified version of the Neptune. The text also have a note that the revolutions of the engines give at least as reliable a indication of the speed in a large ship as any patent log, provided that weather conditions are moderate and the ship's bottom is not foul. I can recall having a trailing device in action explained to me, while a passenger/ galley boy on the S.S. "Lloydcrest" in 1945. I don't know what sort it was, but it was a twirling device! Brian Taylor ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the SMML site for the List Rules, Reviews, Articles, Backissues, Member's models & Reference Pictures at http//smmlonline.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume