Subject: SMML VOL 2822 Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 01:41:20 +1000 The Ship Modelling Mailing List (SMML) is proudly sponsored by SANDLE http//sandlehobbies.com For infomation on how to Post to SMML and Unsubscribe from SMML http//smmlonline.com/aboutsmml/rules.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1 Re NHC Website Down? 2 Re NHC Website 3 USN 16" Barrels and Barrel Liners 4 US Revolutionary War Warship Color Schemes 5 David MacGregor plans 6 Ships catapult 7 World's largest ship - delayed response ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From "Jerry Slagle" Subject Re NHC Website Down? Nat, I've been using it quite a bit lately and it's working fine for me, nothing has changed as far a I know. Jerry ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From Ted Treadwell Subject Re NHC Website Nat, the Naval Historical Center is alive and well, easily accessible - at least on this computer. Give yours a stern lecture and let it know who's boss. Ted Treadwell ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From Joel Labow Subject USN 16" Barrels and Barrel Liners >> Well I remember passing through the Glasgow docks in the summer of 66. I could not believe it. Beside the dockside was a stack of gun tubes. They were also reported in the press. The article in the Evening Citizen said that they had been manufactured for the U.S. Navy at the Parkhead forge of William Beardmore & Co. It would be around July 1966 when I saw them and I saw them at Yorkhill Quay. I beleive they were picked up by an American vessel - very easy to check << I'm not sure what is meant by 'gun tubes.' Large bore naval guns had removable liners since the lifetime of a liner was only about ~300 rounds of full charge AP ammunition. In any event all WWII vintage guns and liners above 5" were manufactured at the Naval Gun Factory located at the Washington (DC) Navy Yard. To the best of my knowledge none were produced after WWII...indeed the USS New Jersey was retired prematurely from her Vietnam service in 1968 because of worn liners which couldn't be replaced (a warehouse full was subsequently discovered at the Washington Navy Yard which permitted all four Iowa class BBs to be reactivated in the 80's). In any event making large bore barrels and liners required a huge dedicated operation that a commercial forge would be totally incapable of replicating. I suspect the newspaper article cited was the product of a roving reporter with a deadline to meet! Joel Labow Captain, USN (ret) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From Thomas DeHaan Subject US Revolutionary War Warship Color Schemes Can anyone point me to a website or other reference on the painting of American revolutionary war warships? I have the AotS book on USS Essex by Portia Takakjian. Fair winds and following seas, Tom ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From Don963@aol.com Subject David MacGregor plans Does anybody know who to contact in England to purchase David MacGregor plans? Don ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From Ron Eadie Subject Ships catapult Hi Shane, I was given your email by Mac who said you may be able to help me with my search for a set of drawings suitable for model making for a Walrus launching catapult. I believe they were cordite fired. I am in the process of making a model of a Walrus and thought it would be a novel idea to launch it from a ships catapult, but my searches for a good engineering drawing of same has proved fruitless. Any assitance would be greatly appreciated. Many thanks, Ron Eadie ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From "Reid, John (AFIT)" Subject World's largest ship - delayed response There was a thread on this topic a few weeks ago, and I recalled then that there had been an article in “Ships Monthly” on the topic, but I couldn’t find it. Over the weekend, I did – Jan 2005 issue, pages 14ff, author Jim Shaw. Sorry for delay. The largest (yet) was “Seawise Giant” (1979-80 jumbo-ised from “Oppama”, built Sumitomo, Oppama and never in service) for C Y Tung of China. Length 1504 ft (458.45m), beam 226 ft (68.8m), loaded displacement 647,955 tonnes (metric), light disp 83,192 t; by comparison, USS Nimitz loaded disp 98,335 t, light 77,600,and I am sure all modellers will realise that Nimitz’s linear dimensions are also far exceeded, e.g. length by 400 feet. In enclosed-volume terms, 238,558 gt (vs Queen Mary 2 148,528 gt). Just imagine this in 1/1200 – 15” long; or 1/700 – over 26”; in 1/350, one would need a pond, I think.... The ship was slow at 13 kts because it retained its original engine room designed for a ship half the size, and not very profitable; was used from 1983 as Floating Storage and Offloading (FSO) platform initially in Texas but from 1986 in the Persian Gulf – a bad time and place to be a large stationary target. Constructive Total Loss 1988, restored 1990 as “Jahre Viking”, traded until 2003, but now in use again as FSO off Oman as “Knock Nevis”. Single hull construction, therefore now banned from further voyages. The article has a few nice photos but no plan. It also cites www.supertankers.topcities.com/index.htm a site by Auke Visser on International Supertankers. John Reid ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the SMML site for the List Rules, Reviews, Articles, Backissues, Member's models & Reference Pictures at http//smmlonline.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume