Subject: SMML VOL 2836 Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 03:14:50 +1000 The Ship Modelling Mailing List (SMML) is proudly sponsored by SANDLE http//sandlehobbies.com For infomation on how to Post to SMML and Unsubscribe from SMML http//smmlonline.com/aboutsmml/rules.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1 Calling Harry Lockhart 2 Re CGCS Labrador and red 3 Scale effect 4 Re Mixing Red and White 5 Tackle 6 Re CGCS Labrador 7 Re Model ships for sale 8 USS Lexington CV-2 9 Re CGCS Labrador 10 lighten/scale coast guard red ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From brownatfareham@surefish.co.uk Subject Calling Harry Lockhart I have recently received an e-mail from Harry S Lockhart Jr of Malden, Mass, USA requesting a back issue of Escort, the newsletter of the Small Warship Group. Unfortunately, all my attempts to reply have been returned as undelivered. The address I have for him is hablock@verizon.net. If this gentleman is a SMML or if anybody knows of this gentleman, please ask him to contact me again. Regards Les Brown (brownatfareham@surefish.co.uk), Small Warship Group ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From "KLW" Subject Re CGCS Labrador and red >> I doing a model of the CCGS Labrador. I usually scale my paints by adding white in various amounts to lighten the original color. Red and white make pink. Anyone know of a way to lighten/scale coast guard red? << Actually, red tends to darken with distance rather than grey-out. I have added a tad bit of ultramarine blue to bright reds on figures (and then used to original red for light effects and more of the ultramine for shadows), but even that is not entirely satisfactory. I would be more inclined just to leave the red alone. The Coast Guard designed that color so it could be seen from long distances without seeming grey. Kevin W ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From Hubert Letterly Subject Scale effect It seems to be a common problem, modelers adding white to get a scale effect. As you have found out, it doesn't work that way. The simplest way to achieve scale effect is to add gray to everything. When you work with color theory the effect you want is called "chroma" or "intensity" and it is achieved by adding the opposite hues (color) together in varying proportions to achieve a dullness of color and not a lightning of color that is called "value" such as red into pink. Adding gray is much simpler than determining which color you are using and then mixing in the exact opposite color to get a dull color that gives you scale effect. The easiest way to check this out is to look at a bright red automobile from a distance of 10 feet than a distance of 500 feet and then 1000 ft. The auto doesn't get pink then white but it appears to be a duller red that is achieved by adding more and more gray. Hugh ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From Darren Scannell Subject Re Mixing Red and White Rolie, I find that sometimes it's easier to find an alternate colour, rather than adding white to something. There are many shades of red at your local hobby store, maybe something will catch your eye. Off the top of my head, maybe model masters marker red would give a good scale effect? I've had good results by finding colours close to what I want and mixing with other close colours. Good luck! Darren ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From Fkbrown90@aol.com Subject Tackle I recently discovered the correct pronunciation of "tackle" (in the nautical sense, when referring to the lines and blocks used to provide a Mechanical Advantage to move things around on a vessel). It is "taykle", believe it or not. "Nah" said I, until I looked it up in two regular and in one mariner's dictionary. "Yup" (or should that be "aye" ?) say I now, and from now on in my lexicon (if I can remember to so do). Franklyn PS This information should be good for a free "coke" at your local pub. Just be sure you have a copy of a dictionary with you. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From "GRAHAM BOAK" Subject Re CGCS Labrador Use the principle of the colour wheel, which you can probably find an example in your nearest art shop. Find the red you want, then look at the colour opposite it on the wheel. Combining equal amounts of red and this colour will create a neutral grey, as both colours cancel each other out. So by adding only a little of the opposing colour you will reduce the intensity of the red without changing its hue. A little experimenting will probably be necessary. Graham Boak ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From "Arthur Herrick" Subject Re Model ships for sale Rod you posted to SMML >> I continue to thin down the shipyard and am offering models here to the list first, before trying to sell on Ebay. I have about 75 models, all plastic (no resin) from the major manufacturers Revell, Italeri, Tamiya, Hasegawa, Monogram, etc. Since there are so many, I'd prefer not to take up list space here. However, if you email me I'll send you the list. << Rod, Please e-mail me list. Where do you live in Mass. ? I am in the south west corner of NH on the Connecticut River, west of Keene NH. Thanks Art Herrick Westmoreland, New Hampshire USA 42° 57' 47.4" N --- 72° 26' 18.9" W --- Altitude 465 ft. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From JFR1945@aol.com Subject USS Lexington CV-2 I have a friend in Germany who is building the Tamiya 1350 LEXINGTON (CV-2) as she was in May 1942. He asked three questions I have been unable to answer. 1) Did the external degaussing cable run all the way to the bow, port and starboard? If not, where did it stop? 2) Were there any deck markings? The plan seems to indicate some dashed white lines, but these do not show up in the photos. 3) Is the top platform on the foremast undersized? Thanks, John Reeder ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9) From Bob Pearson Subject Re CGCS Labrador For illustration work I use a light yellow as highlights on red instead of white and it seems to work. Bob in Prince Rupert, BC Flower Class corvettes http//www.cbrnp.com/RNP/Flower/index.htm Managing Editor / Internet Modeler http//www.internetmodeler.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10) From Peter Subject lighten/scale coast guard red After laying down the base coat and allowing it to dry completely, overspray it very lightly with highly thinned light gray or tan. I prefer Tamiya Arcylic Deck Tan. You will need an airbrush to try this; experiment a lot first. Peter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the SMML site for the List Rules, Reviews, Articles, Backissues, Member's models & Reference Pictures at http//smmlonline.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume