Subject: SMML VOL 2894 Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 02:11:03 +1000 The Ship Modelling Mailing List (SMML) is proudly sponsored by SANDLE http//sandlehobbies.com For infomation on how to Post to SMML and Unsubscribe from SMML http//smmlonline.com/aboutsmml/rules.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1 JMSDF Kongo Class DDGs 2 Re Revell Lionfish welds 3 Re SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN PRE-DREADNOUGHT BATTLESHIP 4 Mikasa 5 Queen Mary II 6 IPMS Nationals report/Revell NS Savannah reissue 7 Re Schleswig-Holstein Und Schlesien 8 I-400 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From "JAMES HATHAWAY" Subject JMSDF Kongo Class DDGs Does anyone have knowledge of if there is a set of good (1/96 scale or better preferably) drawings for the JMSDF's Kongo Class DDGs? Jim Hathaway ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From "Rick Nelson" Subject Re Revell Lionfish welds Hi again Nick, You might want to consider if it really will enhance your submarine model trying to add welds to it. Real welded joints on fleet submarines are at the most an inch to an inch and a half wide and at a distance of a 100 feet or more are hardly noticable. At 1178 scale that means you will be attempting to produce lines that are 0.0056 to 0.0084 inches wide and them texture them. When I build the Lionfish I remove the weld lines and concentrate on other areas of detail that the Revell kit lacks. Just a thought. Good luck, Rick Nelson "Damn the Pressure, Six-Zero feet!" "Boomers Hide With Pride" ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From "Gary Mansfield" Subject Re SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN PRE-DREADNOUGHT BATTLESHIP Hi Marvin, The Schleswig-Holstein (SH), was a member of the Deutschland class, laid down August 1905, at Germania Dockyard Kiel, construction no 113, cost 24,972 marks; launched 7 Dec 1906 and completed 6 July 1908; Tender at Bremerhaven 1917, barrack ship at Kiel 1918, converted in 1936 as sea cadet training ship. Complement as sea-cadet ship 31/565 plus 175 cadets. Badly damaged and sunk by the RAF on 18 Dec 1944 at Gotenhafen, scuttled 21 March 1945. Raised 1945-46 transferred to Kronstadt and used as a training hulk (Soviet Navy) possibly under the name of Borodino. Broken up at Tallinn or; (sunk in 1956 according to steel navy review of 1700 WSK model, no notice were information came from). Ships bell now in Dresden Army museum. 14,218 tons deep load, Length 419ft, 6" oa, Beam 72ft Draught 25ft 5in mean. 4 x 11in 40cal, 14 x 6.7in, 20 x 24pdr, 4 MG, 6 x 17.7 TT submerged. No bow gun sponsons after 1936. After 1936 4 3.7cm AA guns and 4 2cm AA guns and after 1944 ten 4cm bofors AA and 22 2cm AA guns Modified 1928 two separate funnels trunked, the forward funnel wider, she had tubular mast with non-extended foretop at all times. Colour scheme Grey, light grey upper deck etc, under body dark grey, In 1939. Was at Jutland in 1916. Two good photographs in R A Burt's German Battleships 1897-1945 Information from German Warships vol one Major surface vessesls 1815-195 by Erich Groner 1990 and Janes Battleships of the 20th Century by Bernard Ireland Photos from many sites dealing with WW2 see http//www.allempires.com/articles/westplatte/westplatte1.htm shows her firing on 04.45hrs 1 Sep 1939. Looks well loaded down, in light grey finish, firing at point blank range. If you enter her name on any good search engine plus battleship, German, WWII and you will get loads of sites! Hope all the above helps! GARY MANSFIELD ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From "Jean-Pierre Coddron" Subject Mikasa Well, gentlemen, there are guns on this one has anyone seen this model by Hasegawa. The picture I saw on the web look great, as can be expected from this manufacturer. By the way, who would have expected this manufacturer to issue a brand new ship model? Did they find their way to the Chinese toolmakers too? Jean-Pierre ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From "Jean-Pierre Coddron" Subject Queen Mary II Has anyone made a comparison between the Revell 1/400 and the Airfix 1/600 kits of this beauty? I have seen what I think was the Revell model and it looked great. But articles in the British magazine Model Boats seem to prefer the …British Airfix model.. Any ideas, and sorry, folks, no guns on this one… Jean-Pierre ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From Jodie Peeler Subject IPMS Nationals report/Revell NS Savannah reissue hello all -- Just back from the IPMS/USA Nationals in Atlanta, where many great ship models of all kinds were on display and many great ship kits were to be had, too -- some at a pretty good discount. Trident Hobbies was running a 20%-off sale, which was no help to my finances of course. I also saw Loose Cannon there, and a whole bunch of nice Yankee Modelworks stuff. JAG was there, too, but I only had time to look briefly. Then, of course, there was Jon Warneke and Ted Paris. We missed their resin-casting seminar on Thursday, but they exacted their revenge from both me and Ralph by waltzing home with several hundred of our dollars on Saturday. They have a habit of doing that, darn them. (But the USS Albany-class kit I bought from them is awful nice.) They also had a stunning USS Guam (LPH-9) kit available, and had one on the table for inspection. I wish I owned an oil well, because I sure would've taken one home. Wow. Trumpeter had some stuff on display at its table, including some test shots of some ship models. I saw the sealed boxes for the Blue Ridge and Mount Whitney kits, but didn't see any shots of those on display. (I'm glad to see LCC-20 finally available in injection-molded form.) As always, it was great getting to put faces with names from so many modeling communities to which I belong. That's the reason why we do these convention things, of course. ) While at the Trident table I was able to get the Revell-Germany reissue of the NS Savannah. From a quick glance at it last night, it appears the tool has held up very well over the last 40-some-odd years, and the current issue compares favorably with the original-issue kit I have in the archive. There are some large round ejector-pin marks atop some of the main deck pieces, and they'll require some careful sanding to remove. The bow bulwark bracing is a uniform height on the foredeck piece, while on the actual NS Savannah it varied in height along with the bulwark. This, however, can be fixed with some scrap styrene, and compared to the fixes you'd have to make to the other kits of the Savannah, it's a quibble. The decal sheet is typical beautiful Cartograf printing. The problem, though, is that it doesn't accurately reflect Savannah's idiosyncratic typeface on her bow lettering. The real thing was blocky, wide-spaced and at goofy angles, but the kit sheet gives you something smooth and closely-spaced. At some point when I have the time/inclination I'll re-draw it in Illustrator and offer it to one of the ALPS-printing folks for distribution. The atomic sculpture on each side of the ship is reproduced on the decal sheet, but a bit too bulkily. The stripes, on the other hand, appear to be about the right color and will save you an awful lot of painting. All in all, a not-bad kit. It will benefit from some photoetched parts (1400 parts should be about right), although you'll have to do some goofy things to install them, as Savannah's railings had some unique bends, angles and curves to them. I wish the kit's popularity would justify a photoetch set for it, but somehow I get the feeling the prototype's relative obscurity will preclude that. The sticker price on mine was $20, which isn't bad at all (with the show discount, mine was $16). If you can find it -- which may take some doing -- it's worth getting. I'm glad I can keep my original-issue kit in the archive, especially since I would have had to re-glue all the tiny bulwark braces that have busted off over the years! ) jodie ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From "Kevin W. Woodruff" Subject Re Schleswig-Holstein Und Schlesien Marvin You may want to try these websites for starters http//www.battleships-cruisers.co.uk/schleswig_-_holstein.htm http//www.dreadnoughtproject.org/plans/SM_Schleswig-Holstein_1908/ http//www.worldwar1.co.uk/pre-dreadnought/sms-deutschland.html http//www.deutsche-schutzgebiete.de/sms_schleswig-holstein.htm Kevin W. Woodruff ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From "Tom Szuba" Subject I-400 Looking for detailed plans to build a 1441 scale model of the I-400 submarine for RC combat. Anybody know where I might find plans of any scale to develope a fighting model of the sub? Thanks, Tom Szuba Toledo, Ohio ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the SMML site for the List Rules, Reviews, Articles, Backissues, Member's models & Reference Pictures at http//smmlonline.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume