Subject: SMML VOL 2902 Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2005 01:20:08 +1000 The Ship Modelling Mailing List (SMML) is proudly sponsored by SANDLE http//sandlehobbies.com For infomation on how to Post to SMML and Unsubscribe from SMML http//smmlonline.com/aboutsmml/rules.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1 I'm in the wrong line of work.. 2 Re Inclining experiments 3 Inclining Experiments 4 Re inclining experiments 5 Re Maiale Kit 6 Re Inclining Ecxperiment- Try Google 7 Re Inclining Experiments 8 Incline -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD INDEX 1 Photoetch for sale ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From Gary Subject I'm in the wrong line of work.. Check out this recent sale on e-bay. Not a bad return on your $10 kit! http//cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5990113110&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From URUDOFSKY@aol.com Subject Re Inclining experiments I have translated the entire procedure from the German naval construction literature. It is quite similar from the US procedures used on ships and racing sailboats........Got to paragraph 2.3.6. Inclining tests (Krängungsversuche) http//kbismarck.com/archives/index.html Ulrich Rudofsky ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From John Mianowski Subject Inclining Experiments From Skyking918@aol.com >> I keep finding photos of warships in dock undergoing "inclining experiments." As a lifelong landlubber I have no idea what these experiments are designed to test. Can somebody clue me in? << Short answer Ships are designed to have specific stability attributes. These are determined by the distribution of weight throughout the ship. Inclining experiments test the theoretical properties of stability. If a ship has a center of gravity at 'G', & a center of buoyancy at 'B', then you'd expect that if you placed some amount of weight, some distance off-center, the ship should rest at some particular angle. Actually doing the experiment confirms the design. As a ship's operator, you really want to know that what the book says about your ship's stability is accurate. John Mianowski ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From Douglas Simpkin Subject Re inclining experiments It's a method for measuring the weight and stability of a ship. Do a web search for "inclining experiments" and you'll get over 31,000(!) hits, including a nice description by Tom Kremer on this list a number of years ago http//smmlonline.com/archives/VOL0387.txt and http//www.tpub.com/content/engineering/14079/css/14079_199.htm http//www.dt.navy.mil/pao/excerpts%20pages/2000/shipinclineSept.html and for way-too-much-info http//www.nadn.navy.mil/NAOE/courses/en200/lab04.pdf Doug ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From mflake@airmail.net Subject Re Maiale Kit Here's one in 1/72 scale at Choroszy Modelbud http//www.modelbud.pl/modelbud/okrety/ang/s08.htm Marc Flake ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From Bill Michaels Subject Re Inclining Ecxperiment- Try Google Try googling "inclining experiment" . The pages found will explain it better than I can. (It has been 25 years since I took my Naval Architecture class, after all.....) Bill Check out my list of USCG subjects in model kit form home.earthlink.net\~billkaja\kitlist.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From "Ouellette, Lawrence M" Subject Re Inclining Experiments Michael, A quick Google search turned up this simple explanation with pictures http//www.history.navy.mil/photos/sh-usn/usnsh-l/clg4-t.htm Larry Ouellette Volunteer, USS Salem (CA 139) United States Naval Shipbuilding Museum Quincy, Massachusetts, USA http//www.uss-salem.org/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From Subject Incline Top weight is always in your mind as a sailor of any sort of vessel, too much and the next broadside wave will heel you over and you may not come back up, the sensation of a 3000 ton warship heeling over to near horizontal is something no one is likely to forget, as you hang on for dear life and equipment rains down on you and you just pray "come up, come up!" Top weight has a habit of creeping up on you, particularly during a ship's life with a bit added here and a bit there, a new computer, an extra radar processor, even taking on extra stores for a long deployment. Incline tests are needed to find the ship's "Meta Centric Height", the vital pivot point of gravity acting on the ship, you want it as low as possible. Imagine it as the point from which you hang a giant plumb bob, now roll the ship and when the bob leaves the width of the hull and hangs out beyond the ship you just lost stability, gravity is now working to roll the ship over. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From algh80@ukgateway.net Subject Photoetch for sale Dear Lorna I have some photoetch sets I would like to sell and wonder if you could post the following...Also, do you have a contact e-mail address for Zachary Wood. I owe him some money, have lost his postal address and can't get a reply on the e-mail address I have. If you could ask him to contact me with his address I'd be grateful. I have a few 1700 scale photoetch sets for sale, some as-new and some part used. If anyone would like more details or a price list please contact me direct. Here is a brief list for an idea of what's available- + As new Toms Modelworks; naval figures, IJN Destroyer set A, carrier rails and catwalks, US DE, heavy cruiser San Francisco class, IJN heavy cruiser, IJN Carrier set A, Liberty, Indianapolis + As new Edouard; IJN Akagi + As new GMM; WWII British Warships, Gold Plus IJN Railings, Gold Plus Railings, Modern USN/JMSDF, WWIIGerman Warships, IJN Cruiser/Destroyer + As new WEM; Benson/Gleaves, USN Quad 1.1", IJN AA Weapons, IJN Doors & Hatches, DKM Hipper Class, DKM AA weapons, USS Enterprise/Hornet + Used Toms Modelworks; Fuso/Nagato/Ise class battleship, IJN Carrier set B, IJN light cruiser, USN Carrier, Liberty, carrier catwalks and rails + Used Edouard; IJN Shinano, IJN miscellaneous set, Shokaku, Yamato, Alabama, Essex, San Juan, aircraft props and u/c + Used GMM; USN WWII carrier, watertight doors, Tarawa/Saipen, Yamato, WWII German warship, 20mm guns, WWII carrier aircraft details + Used WEM; Sharnhorst/Gneisenau, DKM AA weapons, IJN doors and hatches, RN County Class, KGV class battleships, USS Enterprise/Hornet, Flower class corvette, Indianapolis, Aircraft set 1, HMS Barham supplementary set, 40mm Bofors, ships boats details Some of the part-used sets are more used than others. Please ask if you want a list of missing parts or a photo of the frets. You can get me at alan.blyth@ukgateway.net Thanks Alan ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the SMML site for the List Rules, Reviews, Articles, Backissues, Member's models & Reference Pictures at http//smmlonline.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume