Subject: SMML VOL 2911 Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 02:59:49 +1000 The Ship Modelling Mailing List (SMML) is proudly sponsored by SANDLE http//sandlehobbies.com For infomation on how to Post to SMML and Unsubscribe from SMML http//smmlonline.com/aboutsmml/rules.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1 Italian archaelogists on trail of ancient warships 2 The Varyag 3 Re Camouflage 4 Re s.s. "BRAZIL" 5 Re 1/72 scale Special Navy (MPM) U-Boat Type XXIII (full hull) submarine kit 6 Interwar RN Destroyer Flotilla system ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From JRKutina@webtv.net (John Kutina) Subject Italian archaelogists on trail of ancient warships http//thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2005/8/12/worldupdates/2005-08-12T191452Z_01_NOOTR_RTRJONC_0_-212499-1&sec=Worldupdates Regards, John Kutina ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From "Pwesty" Subject The Varyag Hi Guys I was looking around and found this site about wants going on with the old carrier Varyag. http//www.varyagworld.com/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From "John Snyder" Subject Re Camouflage Sorry Harold, but there is no historical basis for Americans referring to dazzle-type camouflage as "Razzle Dazzle." That's a term that has been applied very recently by modellers who seemingly have picked it up off the internet.... Best regards, John Snyder White Ensign Models http//WhiteEnsignModels.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From HGYL@aol.com Subject Re s.s. "BRAZIL" The "Brazil" (sic) was built as the "Virginia" in 1928 by Newport News SB & DD Co., yard no. 326, for the Panama Pacific Line of New York for their service to San Francisco. Dimensions were 613 ft. loa x 80.4 ft. beam, 20,773 GRT. A good looking ship, with two funnels, she carried 750 passengers in two classes. Her sister ship was the "California" from the same builders, yard number 315. In 1937 she was sold to the Maritime Commission who rebuilt her for the South American service with only one funnel and renamed her "Brazil". She was managed by Moore McCormack on behalf of the American Republic Line whose colours she wore. In 1942 she was taken up as a troop transport ship by the War Shipping Administration and as such would have had the prefix "USAT", US Army Transport. In 1946/7 she was refitted for passenger service and re-entered the New York - River Plate service of Moore McCormack. She was laid up in 1960 after being displaced by the new "Brasil" (sic) and finally scrapped in 1964. There is further detail and some photographs of her as built and after re-building on pages 98 and 99 of Volume 3 in the English language edition of Arnold Kludas' "Great Passenger Ships of the World". I have never asked Newport News for help in research or modelling projects but it is possible that they may still have plans and other information on file which they may be prepared to copy. Regards to all, Yours aye, Harold Lincoln ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From Sab1156@aol.com Subject Re 1/72 scale Special Navy (MPM) U-Boat Type XXIII (full hull) submarine kit Greetings to all of you, I have a remark to Mr. Stocktons very interesting letter about the german submarine type XXIII. The two Bundesmarine subs "Hai" and "Hecht" (Shark & Pike) were not built after the Type XXIII design,but were the original subs of the Type XXIII.In 1945 sunk by their crews and later salvaged,repaired and outfitted with a more modern tower. U-Hai later sunk in a diving accident which killed the most of the crew. Best regards Detlef Hartwig ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From "Mitsuaki Kubota" Subject Interwar RN Destroyer Flotilla system Most of interwar British destroyer classes (A to I classes) are consisting from nine units, one leader and eight destroyers.(Except five units of Cs and 16 units of Tribals) And one class formed one Destroyer Flotilla and it divided into divisions. But I'm confusing how one Destroyer Flotilla (or Divisions) formed from nine units. I'm considering two possibility. Possibility A One leader and two divisions. Each division formed from four destroyers, and has its Divisional Leader. Possibility B Two division formed from four or five destroyers. Senior division led by Flotilla Leader, and another division led by Divisional Leader. Which was correct formation of interwar Destroyer Flotilla, or are there any other correct answer? Thanks Mitsuaki ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the SMML site for the List Rules, Reviews, Articles, Backissues, Member's models & Reference Pictures at http//smmlonline.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume