Subject: SMML VOL 3050 Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 01:18:26 +1100 The Ship Modelling Mailing List (SMML) is proudly sponsored by SANDLE http//sandlehobbies.com For infomation on how to Post to SMML and Unsubscribe from SMML http//smmlonline.com/aboutsmml/rules.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1 Re Regulus missile discussion and lost nuclear weapons 2 gear box set ups 3 Sea Slug Missile ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From "Harold Stockton" Subject Re Regulus missile discussion and lost nuclear weapons Matty wrote in SMML VOL 3043 about "What carrier were you on in the Med during the Cuban Missile Crisis?" I was sitting in a sixth grade classroom in Jacksonville, FL, when that was going on, and I did remember bringing food to school from home in order that we would have something to eat if the "BIG ONE" happened. It didn't, and the food was kept to be given to some "unnamed" individuals. But in answer to your other part of the question about "what kind of piston-engined attack planes were they keeping on ready-alert to deliver nuclear weapons on Cuba - especially from all the way over there?" They weren't planning on bombing Cuba from the Med, but from the blockade fleet around Cuba. The Med deployed, as well as the Pacific units, would have relied upon their AD Skyraider squadrons to deliver the special packages in over-the-shoulder lob-toss maneuvers. The A3 Skywarrior was for high-speed and deep strike missions. Concerning the Regulus missile discussion and the so-called lost nuclear weapons, the only "lost" birds that I can come up with was FTM-1274 (Flight Test Missile, painted red.) that was lost in the trees as it was being brought around for another landing approach at NAOTS Chincoteague in 1955. As the fuel calculations were off on the missile, the thing crashed on final with its gear down. -1274 crashed into the trees about three miles short on the longest test flight to date of the program, 75 minutes. Navy TV-2Ds were often used as chase planes also. usually landing the FTM from a right-wing position. In May 1955 there was a Sidewinder intercept demonstration for then President Eisenhower aboard the USS Saratoga (CVA-60) out of NB Mayport, at Jacksonville Beach, FL. Two F4D-1s were launched as the intercept crews, and they had no difficulty in keeping up with FTM-1262 on its race-track course, at least until their final run-in from 10 miles astern. It took all eight Sidewinders to finally bring down -1262, which speaks highly of what a regular RAM Regulas would have to have faced on an operational mission. And it should also be stated that when the -4 was brought into the program in 1958 to replace the slower -3D models, the -4 could almost climb and cruise with a Regulas missile, not a bad performance of the latter, and it took a F4D-1 to keep up with a Regulas. Though it should be noted here that a -3 was not that much slower than a -4, which was capable of 680 mph at sea-level and 631 mph at altitude, figures not too dissimilar to the then current Hawker Hunter 6. Listed below is the carriers that either did Test and Evaluation (T/E) or RAM (Regulas Assault Missile) Operations and Flights respectively. Carrier/Operation/Number of Flights Princeton (CVA-37); T/E, 1 Hancock (CVA-19); T/E & RAM, 10 Randolph (CVA-15); RAM, 2 Ticonderoga (CVA-14); RAM, none Saratoga (CVA-60); T/E, 3 Lexington (CVA-16); RAM, 1 F.D. Roosevelt; (CVA-42); T/E, 1 Shangri-La (CVA-38); RAM, none AND, there were at least one each T/E launches of Regulas IIs from Grayback (SSG-574) on 18 September 1958, and the other from Kings County (AF-157) on 10 December of the same year. In conclusion, this seems to be an interesting addition to any of these vessels listed during the times period listed. Harold Stockton ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From "Will Noble" Subject gear box set ups Dear Don Good evening! Nope; I live on a hilltop in the West Hills, so the rain hasn’t done any more than keep me indoors and modeling when I’m not out at the shop keeping the folks in line (that’s a joke; I have great employees!) – I’m hoping it dries up a bit so I can finish getting the leaves up and the last of the garden maintenance done, though. As to modeling - -I didn’t know you did RC (although I can tell from the email addy) – I’m always up to learn more, though – both myself and the kids will thank you! I’ll call CSE tomorrow, and see about their operating hours. As I mentioned, I’m more interested in gearboxes; the electronics are pretty straightforward (all roads lead to Futaba) – and as I’m more into a realistic look-and-feel when I operate an RC craft, thrust-vectoring is OUT. Yes, the gearboxes are fussy – and no one seems to sell them as a separate part (I’ve written twice to Tamiya; not even a response) – but they’re the only thing that does the job. I’ve been inundated with people who have the input shaft/four output gearboxes – although what I really would like are more of the input-to-two-outputs, if anyone has them. Although the purists will ‘diss’ me for taking a kit and turning it into an RC craft, it’s possible to RC nearly everything – all that’s needed are two servos (one for the rudder; one for the powerplant), a power source; antenna; and a gearbox to drive the shafts. Water in the hull is taken care of nicely by a set of scratchbuilt stuffing-boxes (I’ve used bushings in the past, but I’ve found that bushings alone are a GREAT way to make a gift out of your craft to the Lake Gods) As mentioned (or perhaps not) input is greatly appreciated and even more gratefully received, by either yourself or anyone else on the SMML forum. Best, Will Noble Portland, OR ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From "Gary Mansfield" Subject Sea Slug Missile HI SMML Think Tank Crew! Any information out there in SMML Land regard Sea Slug missile's in the RN and County Class destroyers? Books/kits? (I know about the Airfix 1600 kit). The same for USN Missile Cruisers in the early days (Talos etc). The Airfix 1600 HMS Belfast kit any PE out there to bring today's condition? Thank you for all the replies ref HMS Blake and her Command/Helicopter conversion along with HMS Tiger (pity about HMS Lion). I now have the Matchbox 1700 HMS Tiger and the Airfix 1600 and WEM PE and paints. I know about the Eastern Express 1415 HMS Tiger weird scale! (These two would have been a great help in the Falklands)! Kind regards Gary Mansfield ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the SMML site for the List Rules, Reviews, Articles, Backissues, Member's models & Reference Pictures at http//smmlonline.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume