Subject: SMML VOL 3077 Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 01:34:36 +1100 The Ship Modelling Mailing List (SMML) is proudly sponsored by SANDLE http//sandlehobbies.com For infomation on how to Post to SMML and Unsubscribe from SMML http//smmlonline.com/aboutsmml/rules.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1 Re handling etchings 2 Re HMS Nizam 3 Re SMS Geier 4 Re Old N/S Savannah Article Information ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From "Tim Perry" Subject Re handling etchings I find folding etched parts is greatly simplified by using one of the purpose-made folding tools that are currently on the market. There are several, but the one in my tool box is from The Small Shop EU and it works very well. Their website is www.smallshopeu.com I bought mine last year at the UK IPMS show at Telford. It wasn't cheap, but then good tools will last several lifetimes! Usual disclaimers, No commercial links, just a happy customer. Tim Perry wunwinglow www.tjpgraphics.com for digital aviation modelling www.kipperboxes.co.uk for 1200 Warship models www.cardmodels.net for the best paper and card website on the net www.bammo.org.uk for IAM motorcycle training in the Bristol area ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From Mikejillmc@aol.com Subject Re HMS Nizam >> There is no radar included in the photo-etch I'm afraid and the etched pennant number is strange. The rear area is a mess - the wings of the aft deckhouse did not have supports and no liferafts were located there. The TSDS is incorrectly represented (the third depressor paravane is missing) but this is a flaw shared with the White Ensign version. Also the platform between the mast legs is missing. This model will build an early Juno, K class or N class. For the other early J class ships you would need the White Ensign model which includes the funnel with the galley funnel moulded on it. The colour scheme is also wrong - JKN ships did not have green coverings on their weatherdecks - it was grey. Because of this the kit does not replace the White Ensign version though the turrets and twin 4.7 inch are better and include very nice recruperator detail but the moulding quality (at least from the photographs shown) is not as good. << Christopher, I think it may be better to wait until the kit is released to pass judgement on it. It seems as though Niko use photographs of test models on their website, rather than production models as the actual kits always seem superior to the photos shown on the Niko site. All I can say is that if the kit has the casting quality of their recent ORP Garland, it will be a superior model to the now aging White Ensign Kit, which has some heavy moulding in part. As with any kit, I am sure there will be some inaccuracies, but with your excellent book I'm sure any modeller could correct these. Mike McCabe ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From URUDOFSKY@aol.com Subject Re SMS Geier The actual problem is that the bow section is not on those plans at http//www.dreadnoughtproject.org Ulrich Rudofsky ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From Jodie Peeler Subject Re Old N/S Savannah Article Information hi all -- Peter Upton wrote >> I think I saw it in Popular Mechanics or a similar publication. As I recall, the article or series of articles covered the building of the ship's hull of laminations of paper over a wooden plug, and powered by a steam turbine (the mechanical aspect of the series). I don't remember if the model was radio-controlled. << That sounds like something PM would have done. The December 1952 issue, for instance, has a good article on how you can build a model of the s/s United States in your workshop, and it even includes some pretty good fold-out plans that were produced with the help of Newport News Shipbuilding. This one was display-only, not motorized or powered, but considering it was 1952 and Mr. Gibbs managed to get the ship's secrets protected by "national security" classifications, the drawings are surprisingly good. One wishes Revell had gone by these drawings when tooling the "flat-bottom boat" United States kit -- then the world's fastest ship wouldn't have come out in plastic looking quite so tubby! ) At any rate, you may want to check out larger libraries that might have bound volumes of PM. If I can remember to, next time I'm doing research at the nearest mega-library, I'll have to see if back issues exist there and see if I can find the article. Since N/S Savannah is another lost love of mine, my interest is piqued. ) jodie ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the SMML site for the List Rules, Reviews, Articles, Backissues, Member's models & Reference Pictures at http//smmlonline.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume