Subject: SMML VOL 3081 Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 00:07:52 +1100 The Ship Modelling Mailing List (SMML) is proudly sponsored by SANDLE http//sandlehobbies.com For infomation on how to Post to SMML and Unsubscribe from SMML http//smmlonline.com/aboutsmml/rules.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1 Re Revell 1/720 Ark and DD 2 Re Krylon Primer 3 Re Tamiya 1/700 HOOD plus destroyer 4 JDS Kongou 5 Re HMS Nizam 6 Re Tamiya 1/700 HOOD plus destroyer 7 Re Old N/S Savannah Article Information 8 Re Aircraft Carrier ... cheap ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From "Poutre, Joseph A" Subject Re Revell 1/720 Ark and DD From LymanJohnF@aol.com >> Separate question does anyone produce a dedicated photo-etch fret for the Revell 1/720 combined kit of HMS ARK ROYAL and Tribal-class Destroyer? << White Ensign makes a set for each. I have both, and have used the Tribal one, and recommend them. Joe Poutre ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From "Leslie D. Foran" Subject Re Krylon Primer In reply to Will Noble's questions, the Krylon spray can certainly is not the equal of any airbrush, including my Testors Aztecs. But we are talking about a very light dusting, just enough to get some paint on the surface to provide adhesion for actual color coats (unless you are using the red-brown color for hull bottoms, in which case I have found using it as a color coat still works well). You have to really lay this stuff on thick before it will drip or sag. If you wipe the spray nozzle clean after a few passes, you should not have clogging problems. DuPont uses a better spray nozzle design than you find on cheaper spray cans. DuPont automotive paints are very popular with auto-body shops, so I think this product is probably available in quart cans. I do not know what you would use for a thinner for airbrush use, but an automotive supply house could advise you. Beware that some automotive solvents are not compatible with styrene plastic. I always use this stuff on PE, spraying the parts on the fret before removing them. The only exception would be if I wanted to keep some of the PE in natural brass (to represent unpainted brass fittings). If I am building a project that will get a lot of handling during completion and after painting the hull or superstructure, I definitely will prime the parts first. I usually use acrylics in finishing my models, and find that acrylic paints scratch easily if applied to unprimed styrene. Sometimes, if I am building subassemblies such as turrets with PE additions and maybe white styrene scratchbuilt parts I will wait and prime the whole thing as a unit so it will be a uniform color before painting with color coats. That's about all that I can offer. Again, I am no expert, but I do know what works for me. Les Foran Ogallala, NE (getting snowed in right now) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From brownatfareham@surefish.co.uk Subject Re Tamiya 1/700 HOOD plus destroyer >> I have seen ad listings, but no box cover or kit photos, for a new version of the old Tamiya 1/700 waterline kit of HMS HOOD. The new kit is titled HMS HOOD and E-class Destroyer. Has anyone held this kit in their hands yet? Have there been any reviews? Is the HOOD the same casting as before? Is it really an E-class destroyer of the 1930-1939 A to I series? Separate question does anyone produce a dedicated photo-etch fret for the Revell 1/720 combined kit of HMS ARK ROYAL and Tribal-class Destroyer? << This kit has been available in the UK for a few months now. The model of Hood is basically as before but that of the destroyer - yes it is from the 1930 A-I series - is new and very good. If only Tamiya would release it as a separate item? Regards Les Brown ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From Subject JDS Kongou Does anyone know of a good set of plans available for one of the Kongou class DDGs used by the JMSDF? Thanks, in advance- Jim Hathaway ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From Mikejillmc@aol.com Subject Re HMS Nizam >> As currently presented the model does not offer any real improvement over the White Ensign version and in some ways is worse. It is perfectly fair to judge a company by what it wishes to offer as illustration of its models. << If you don't like it, don't buy it, nobody is forcing you! Going on past experience with Niko kits, I will buy it and if there are inaccuracies, I will correct them. That's what modellers do. Mike ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From Richa5011@aol.com Subject Re Tamiya 1/700 HOOD plus destroyer >> The new kit is titled HMS HOOD and E-class Destroyer. Has anyone held this kit in their hands yet? << Yes, the kit has been available here in the US since July 2005. >> Have there been any reviews? << You can look forward to a detailed build article in an upcoming issue of IPMS/USA Journal. Generally the E class kit is very decent, certainly better then the Tamiya re-vamp of the O, and though it has several small issues, they are easily delt with. White Ensign is supposed to have PE set in the works for this kit. I built mine up using parts from their existing O and J/K offerings. >> Is it really an E-class destroyer of the 1930-1939 A to I series? << Yes, and with some minor tweeks can also represent the F class ships. >> Is the HOOD the same casting as before? << The Hood, is the same old Hood...but is pretty decent still and very buildable. Nat Richards ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From KenLMaster@aol.com Subject Re Old N/S Savannah Article Information I do not have my copy of the articles where I can refer to them, but I believe I can give you an indication about what is in the series. There are 4 parts to the series. The 1st 2 parts are about building the model using bread and butter techniques to form the hull plug and making the mold for a fiberglass hull for the working model. The paper hull is mentioned as an alternative for a static model. The 3rd part is on making a steam turbine to power the model and the 4th, the shortest part, is on radio control for the model. I do remember that the articles were in the magazine during the 1960-1965 time frame which will narrow your search for you. I did find the correct issues at the Dallas Library, so any fairly large city library may have these issues for you to look it up. I have also seen these issues on Ebay from time to time. As I remember, the model looks like it would be a good basis for a detailed model if you could get some good photos of the ship. The hull is about 4 feet long. Again, I don't remember, but it was either Popular Science or Popular Mechanics magazine. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From Ned Barnett Subject Re Aircraft Carrier ... cheap From Richa5011@aol.com >> Saw this in the news today Chirac orders "toxic" ship home French President Jacques Chirac has ordered the asbestos-lined warship Clemenceau to return to French waters after a ruling by the highest court. The court had demanded an end to the transfer of the decommissioned warship to a breaking yard in India after complaints from environmentalists. Greenpeace and three anti-asbestos groups said the ship was an environmental and health hazard. The ship is in the Arabian Sea after India refused entry to its waters. India said it wanted more information before allowing the decommissioned aircraft carrier to enter its waters. A statement from Mr Chirac's office said "The president has decided to put this ship in French waters on a position of standby which offers all security guarantees until a definitive solution for its dismantling is found." Greenpeace welcomed the decision as a "victory for Indian workers" and those who work in ship-breaking. Yannick Jadot, director of campaigns for Greenpeace France, said it was a victory for the protection of the fundamental rights of the individual and the environment. << Sounds more like a victory of rich meddlesome First World do-gooders over Indian workers struggling to support a family - who've now been put out of work. All they'd need would be respirators (or protective suits and respirators) - but no, Greenpeace has to step in and put them out of work. Having been thrown out of work (once) by meddlesome do-gooders intent on "my own best interest" without bothering to ask me if I wanted their help (I didn't), I feel for the Indian workers, and feel contempt for the Greenpeace Environmental group who "know best" while clipping their coupons from their posh Park Avenue townhouses ... Ned Barnett ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the SMML site for the List Rules, Reviews, Articles, Backissues, Member's models & Reference Pictures at http//smmlonline.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume