Subject: SMML VOL 3083 Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 00:48:13 +1100 The Ship Modelling Mailing List (SMML) is proudly sponsored by SANDLE http//sandlehobbies.com For infomation on how to Post to SMML and Unsubscribe from SMML http//smmlonline.com/aboutsmml/rules.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1 Re HMS Nizam 2 Re Finding NS Savannah article 3 Japanese Submarine Designations ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From Mikejillmc@aol.com Subject Re HMS Nizam >> I am just someone who knows more about this topic than most having done an enormous amount of research into it. << This all comes back to your statement about the Niko model which I take issue with. You state 'this is no improvement on the White Ensign kit'. Who questioned your knowledge on N class destroyers? We are talking about a model, not the ships themselves, are you saying you know more about models than anyone else? I doubt it. You pass judgement on a model yet seem to be entirely focussed on the issue of accuracy, forgetting that this is only one attribute of a good model. What about casting, detail, fineness of small parts, ease of fit etc? The issue is that you have chosen to 'review' a model based solely on one set of criteria and because there may be some slight, and you must admit correctable, accuracy issues you base your entire viewpoint on that and declare that the kit is no better than the White Ensign kit. You miss my point entirely, which is that without seeing the model you cannot judge it, you can comment on accuracy but not the other criteria from the test shots. Minor issues of accuracy can be corrected, as a modeller given the choice between an excellent kit (I hope it will be) with some minor accuracy issues and an accurate one of lesser quality, I would take the former every time, I think most would. By the way I have no connection to Niko, I like their kits and would recommend them to anyone. Finally I wonder if you would possibly take exception to someone passing judgement on one of your books the way you seem to with the work of others. I rather think if I based a review on a picture of the cover and a few test shots on a website without ever seeing it myself, you would be less than happy. Mike ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From "Tom Detweiler" Subject Re Finding NS Savannah article From KenLMaster@aol.com >> The hull is about 4 feet long. Again, I don't remember, but it was either Popular Science or Popular Mechanics magazine. << Hi -- To find out which magazine has the article on the NS Savannah, go to your library reference desk and go through the Reader's Guide to Periodical Literature, around the approximate publish date. The Reader's Guides cover about two years worth each, if I recall correctly. I've been waiting for someone to put the whole Reader's Guides online so we can access them from our home computers, but so far they are only available in university or college libraries that way. Look it up under Ship Model, or under "Savannah" or "NS Savannah", and you'll find it. The Reader's Guides have indexed all the articles published in the mainstream Do It Yourself publications such as Popular Science, Popular Mechanics, Mechanix Illustrated, Science and Mechanics, and others. I spent many an hour with my nose in those guides, looking up modeling projects to do. I do remember seeing that article too-- my family were at one time big collectors of those magazines when doing it yourself was the thing to do! In midwest postwar America, people actually enjoyed building things and doing things for themselves, and I'm one of them. Some of us still do, but the unfortunate trend seems to be towards consuming rather than constructing, and that is reflected in the magazines too, which are now little better than glorified consumer guides. Most of the entries in our local county fair are mediocre at best but the entries illustrate what I mean. That's kinda sad, in my opinion. Tom Detweiler ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From Michael Aono Subject Japanese Submarine Designations About a month ago, someone was asking about the function of the IJN designations for the I, Ro and Ha on their submarines. The IJN used to preceed the number on all ther subs with I until the system changed in November 01 1924. All submarines were labeled "I" for all large ocean going boats over 1000 tons All coastal submarines 500 to 1000 tons were labeled "Ro." Small boats less then 500 tons were labeled "Ha." Michael ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the SMML site for the List Rules, Reviews, Articles, Backissues, Member's models & Reference Pictures at http//smmlonline.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume