Date: 20 Mar 2006 17:46:34 -0000 Subject: SMML Vol 3103 The Ship Modelling Mailing List (SMML) is proudly sponsored by SANDLE http//sandlehobbies.com For infomation on how to Post to SMML and Unsubscribe from SMML http//smmlonline.com/aboutsmml/rules.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: Re: Profile Morskie 16 Tribal class 2: Nimitz class in 1/350? 3: Meditteranean Vosper MGBs 4: Re: Profile Morskie 16 Tribal class 5: Re: Profile Morskie 16 Tribal class 6: Diffused-Lighting ships and optical camouflage 7: Re: Profile Morskie 16 Tribal class 8: Re: German WWII Surface Ships ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From Matt Subject Re: Profile Morskie 16 Tribal class Wish I could assist, but sure would be nice to see a new 1/350 scale Tribal. Matt Maarten Schönfeld wrote > Dear SMMLlies, > > I just found out that Profile Morskie once had a booklet on the Tribal > class > destroyers, but this has long been sold out now. > > Is there someone amongst you that have it, and would be willing to make a > couple of photocopies, or even better scans from the plans in it? I'm > searching in particular for the "body plan" which shows the transverse > hull > shapes. > > Currently I have started a build-up of the 1350 Iron Shipwright kit > of the > Tribal, and found that the hull shape needs some drastic improvement, > especially near the bow (too little flare in particular), and that the > bilges near the quarterdeck are too bulgy. > > Thanks for your help in advance! > > Maarten Schönfeld > The Netherlands ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From "Pwesty" Subject Nimitz class in 1/350? Hi Guys I am seeing that Trumpeter is making just about all the Essex class carriers in 1/350 and some in 1/700 scale also. I am wondering why they have not made any more of the Nimitz class in 1/350, anybody knows if there are any plans to make more of them in the future? Thanks ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From "Roger Pearson" Subject Meditteranean Vosper MGBs Greetings all from Sunny Bendigo, Regarding the above, I'm after any info/pics on the three? Vosper MTBs which were converted to MGBs by removing the torpedo tubes and adding captured Italian 20mm 'Breda' guns. According to PT Dockyard (who do this model in 600 scale) there were FIVE guns added, but according to ACF vol 2 by John Lambert/Al Ross there were SIX guns added ??????? Do ANY of you out there tell me who is correct and can provide boat numbers, JL quotes one as being MTB 57. See the bottom of page 52. I guess this info COULD ?? be in one of Len Reynolds's books "Meditteranean MTBs at War", if that is so it's one book I don't have YET !! Thank you, Roger Pearson ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From Paul Subject Re: Profile Morskie 16 Tribal class Maarten I don't know if this will help but there are a set of plans for HMCS Haida, a Canadian Tribal built by British shipyards. The plans are sold by the Hobby Center in Ottawa, Ontario although they are not the authors of the plans. One set depicts the ship in her April, 1944 fit while the other set shows her in her 1963 Paying-off configuration. They go for about $35.00 Cdn if I remember right. I can't recall the URL for the site but a Google search should find the store which is on the corner of Bank St and Hunt Club Road. I think they are 1/96 scale and show the body plan for both an R/C kit and a scale model. Paul Maarten � wrote > Dear SMMLlies, > > I just found out that Profile Morskie once had a booklet on the Tribal > class > destroyers, but this has long been sold out now. > > Is there someone amongst you that have it, and would be willing to make a > couple of photocopies, or even better scans from the plans in it? I'm > searching in particular for the "body plan" which shows the transverse > hull > shapes. > > Currently I have started a build-up of the 1350 Iron Shipwright kit > of the > Tribal, and found that the hull shape needs some drastic improvement, > especially near the bow (too little flare in particular), and that the > bilges near the quarterdeck are too bulgy. > > Thanks for your help in advance! > > Maarten Schönfeld ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From "Dana J Nield" Subject Re: Profile Morskie 16 Tribal class It is HYPERLINK "http//www.hobcen.com"http//www.hobcen.com Cheers! Dana -----Original Message----- Maarten I don't know if this will help but there are a set of plans for HMCS Haida, a Canadian Tribal built by British shipyards. The plans are sold by the Hobby Center in Ottawa, Ontario although they are not the authors of the plans. One set depicts the ship in her April, 1944 fit while the other set shows her in her 1963 Paying-off configuration. They go for about $35.00 Cdn if I remember right. I can't recall the URL for the site but a Google search should find the store which is on the corner of Bank St and Hunt Club Road. I think they are 1/96 scale and show the body plan for both an R/C kit and a scale model. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From "Harold Stockton" Subject Diffused-Lighting ships and optical camouflage An interesting adjunct to the discussions of naval camouflage experiments can be seen in the subject of the Canadian Navy's studies with their diffused-lighting ship camouflage (also referred to as "D/L camouflage"). This was aCanadian invention, diffused lighting is a method that the naval forces of Canada, Great Britain and the United States studied between 1940 and 1945. This system of concealment at night made it difficult to identify a ship at short range and rendered it almost invisible to the eyes of a distant enemy observer. Further reading can be found on this fascinating subject at http//www.mnq-nmq.org/english/vivez/impacts/camoufla.htm "In 1940 diffused lighting seemed to offer an alternative solution to the problem of visual disadvantage. It could make a convoy as difficult to see from a U-boat as it was to see a U-boat from a convoy. "Scarcely a few days after having reported his discovery, Professor Burr was invited to Naval Services Headquarters to discuss the possible applications of this technique. Laboratory tests quickly demonstrated that the basic principle was valid. The decision was then taken to proceed, in January 1941, with a first trial on a Canadian Navy ship, the corvette HMCS Cobalt." Harold Stockton ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From "rnfandan" Subject Re: Profile Morskie 16 Tribal class --- Paul wrote > Maarten > > I don't know if this will help but there are a set of plans for HMCS > Haida, a Canadian Tribal built by British shipyards. > > Paul As long as you stick with the hull and lower portions of the ship, the Canadian Tribal plans should be sufficiently accurate for the job. Just remember tho, that deck plans, bow construction (internal), and some fittings and equipment were not the same as in the RN Tribals, especially at their time of completion. The Canadian Tribals were considerable improvements on the originals, partly due to benefiting from operational experience and early-war losses of some of the class, suffered by the RN. Canada also specified slightly different requirements in design than those of the Admiralty. Best of luck on your efforts! Dan ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From "Friedrich Kappes" Subject Re: German WWII Surface Ships I would say all nationalities are fine..., right? 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