Subject: SMML Vol 3109 Date: 29 Mar 2006 16:41:01 -0000 The Ship Modelling Mailing List (SMML) is proudly sponsored by SANDLE http//sandlehobbies.com For infomation on how to Post to SMML and Unsubscribe from SMML http//smmlonline.com/aboutsmml/rules.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: Re: IJN AIRCRAFT CARRIERS - IJN destroyers - ROBBIE U-47 KIT 2: Motorizing a model warship 3: IPMS (USA) Journal Editor 4: Re: Martin P6M SeaMaster ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From jasperaul@tiscali.co.uk Subject Re: IJN AIRCRAFT CARRIERS - IJN destroyers - ROBBIE U-47 KIT >-- Original Message -- >From"Gary Mansfield" >Subject [SMML] IJN AIRCRAFT CARRIERS - IJN destroyers - ROBBIE U-47 KIT > >Hi to the SMML Think Tank! > >I cannot seem to find here in the UK more so, anyone selling 1700 IJN >Aircraft Carriers. Any ideas? I have seen loads of sites on the web, >especially so USA but all sold out or the postage! Also, what is the 1700 > >PE like for some of these kits? Some bits look really poor others very, > >very good! The same for IJN Destroyers. WEM will cover the paint side of >Gary Mansfield I have IJN Carriers 1/700 RYUJYO Fujimi---AKAGI Hasegawa---ZUIKAKU Fujimi still in boxes if you are interested. I am in lancashire UK. Also other 1/700 kits British USA Japan & Germany---reasonable prices I gone over to 1/1250 scale ships. Tom---Ashton Under Lyne ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From "Will Noble" Subject Motorizing a model warship Dear Gary Several things to cover here, so I'll start at the beginning 1. Postage is part of the modeling game. I know that there are a lot of companies that charge what might be considered excessive amounts to handle/ship a product, but the cost of shipping has increased over the past couple of years quite dramatically, and they really don't have much choice but to pass it on. 2. ANYTHING can be made R/C, or at least motorized!! It's considered 'heresy' by some, but I've used P/E sets on my 'floaty-boaties' for years. While an extensive post on motorization is probably beyond the purview of this forum, you'll need some sheet-styrene to make motor mounts and the like; a good soldering iron and solder, plus a source of thin-gauge wire for the motorization kit; a source for a motor (posted below); plus a battery-holder. Some proficiency at soldering would be VERY helpful (remember that hot solder and either styrene or ABS do NOT mix well, so use heat-sinks!) Unless you want to turn this into an R/C ship, you'll want to leave your rudders as-is - moveable, but not radio-controlled. I've several smaller ships I've built for the children of various relatives over the years which can be set to cross 'the pond' in a broad arc - almost as much fun as R/C, without the expense and trouble of conversion! Your big Achilles-heel will be a gearbox, unless you want to experiment with two motors. On occasion, if you post here and in other forums, you can get someone to send you a gearbox or two for a small fee if you don't have one handy with the kit. Note that I'm referring to mini/micro R/C - -there's an entire section of the hobby that refers to larger kits - Yahoo Groups' "Lindyfletcher" group deals with a lot of this (1/72 and larger) kits. 3. Robbe U-47 This is an EXCELLENT kit! You'll find that its primary function is for R/C and submersible operation; unless the kit comes with the parts for motorization; radio-control; and submergence, you'll have to purchase all these parts separately. Count on spending $1,000-1,500US (total) to get this one built and up-and-running. Sources Motors; switches; other micro-electronics http//www.allelectronics.com/cgi-bin/item/DCM-247/400/1.5-4_VDC_MOTOR_.html (Note I've linked you directly to a low-speed/high-torque motor which runs on a single AA battery. This site, in fact, is FULL of good things for the R/C and non-R/C motorizer alike!) Mini R/C http//www.e-clec-tech.com/minirc.html (You can use the parts from some of these prebuilt toys to do R/C on smaller model kits. It's a bit of a pain, but I've done it). Revell U-Boat conversion http//www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=288890 (Here's a link to a fellow's attempt to build the Revell 1/72 U-Boat as a submersible. I'd've done things differently, but it's a great site and a great way to get ideas). Mini/Micro R/C conversion forum http//www.rcuniverse.com/forun/m_3450615/tm.htm (Here's some great info on R/C conversion!! R/C/ submarine sites http//www.vabiz.com/d&e/ http//www.subcommittee.com/ http//www.geocities.com/smallworldmodels/ss581/ss581.html http//www.rc-sub.com/WTC3.html http//www.engel-modellbau.de/catalog/? (You'll find that many people refer to David Merriman and D&E Industries on these sites. D&E is the manufacturer of the D&E water-tight cylinder -- an indispensable gizmo, IMHO, for the construction of any R/C submarine. The SubCommittee is probably where it begins and ends for model submariners. I'd be remiss if I hadn't posted from Alexander Engel's fine site; it's full of everything you'll need to construct model submersibles). Finally, if you like your R/C LARGE, go here http//www.steelnavy.com/NichimoYamatoGrima.htm (The photos ALONE are worth it!) Best, -Will Noble Portland, OR ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From Ned Barnett Subject IPMS (USA) Journal Editor Anybody know what happened at IPMS USA to cause the 17-year Journal Editor to get "fired"??? I ask as one who was also once the Journal Editor (back when it was the Quarterly) - I didn't get fired, but I got myself promoted (I became National Secretary) because it was so much work! Just curious Ned Barnett ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From "Doug Wilde" Subject Re: Martin P6M SeaMaster A pretty good book on the Martin SeaMaster is MartinP6M SeaMaster The Story of the Most Advanced Seaplane Ever Produced by Stan Piet and Al Raithel Published by Martineer Press the ISBN is 0-9700662-0-1 Soft cover, it is full of photographs, in black and white as well as color, many drawings and a rather detailed accounting of the program and all the crafts. I highly recommend the book. Doug Wilde ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the SMML site for the List Rules, Reviews, Articles, Backissues, Member's models & Reference Pictures at http//smmlonline.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume